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Drydic Guy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Skourene scripts Reply with quote

I've been going over the Skourene history pages (especially the flash file-that format is immensely helpful, not having to load each map seperately is great for those of us on snail-like connections), and noticed something on the 827 map. It's very faint, but in several places it seems to show language varieties of the various areas, or possibly alphabetical areas. There are Engidorid (around the territory of Engidori), Imutelik (around Meŋeland), Itilik, Komandik, Miligendik, Gutlelik (I can't totally make this one out. I'm generalising from the fact it's glossed under the lands of Gutleli), and ?Gasinurik (it's right on the northern border of Papliopagimi, and runs across several land features).

EDIT: nevermind. I just noticed the scripts checkbox, which shows all of the above. and the Papliogimic one is Gasiburik.

Just so this wasn't a completely meaningless post, I'm going to ask whether any specifics of the Gurdagor, Echendi/Gelihurendi, or T?uro proper (i.e., the Jippirasti alphabet) exist, besides

sprand, from the Almean Historical Atlas.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Skourene scripts Reply with quote

Darth Drydic wrote:
I[...] noticed something on the 827 map. It's very faint,


I think this is a bug in Flash... a layer with alpha of 0% is supposed to be invisible, but in fact shows up slightly.

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Just so this wasn't a completely meaningless post, I'm going to ask whether any specifics of the Gurdagor, Echendi/Gelihurendi, or T?uro proper (i.e., the Jippirasti alphabet) exist, besides

sprand, from the Almean Historical Atlas.


The Jippirasti alphabet does exist... on the other hand, T?uro isn't worked out very well. I'll probably look at both of them together some time...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Skourene scripts Reply with quote

zompist wrote:
Darth Drydic wrote:
I[...] noticed something on the 827 map. It's very faint,


I think this is a bug in Flash... a layer with alpha of 0% is supposed to be invisible, but in fact shows up slightly.

Quote:
Just so this wasn't a completely meaningless post, I'm going to ask whether any specifics of the Gurdagor, Echendi/Gelihurendi, or T?uro proper (i.e., the Jippirasti alphabet) exist, besides

sprand, from the Almean Historical Atlas.


The Jippirasti alphabet does exist... on the other hand, T?uro isn't worked out very well. I'll probably look at both of them together some time...


I was wondering what does the Jipperasti alphabet look like?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Skourene scripts Reply with quote

Serali wrote:
I was wondering what does the Jipperasti alphabet look like?


Since nobody has answered this yet, just in case...

The only example of the Jippurasti alphabet that has appeared online is the entry in the Historical Atlas of Almea describing the strokes that make up Drydic's example of sprand above -- look at the entry for 1750c (containing information on scripts and literacy). Any further glimpses may have to wait until Mark finished fleshing out the T?uro grammar, I fear (unless it appears in the Almeopedia, say...). Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I went to the link you said and all I see is the map and no script examples.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serali wrote:
Hi I went to the link you said and all I see is the map and no script examples.


Hi, Serali!

There are comments under each of the maps in the Historical Atlas, but your screen resolution may not be letting you see them; see Mark's Atlas Help page for details. In my case, I'm usually using my laptop (which doesn't allow a larger screen resolution) or my parents' desktop (which I don't change), so I use the F11 key in Windows to achieve the same effect by dropping the bottom taskbar and expanding IE to full-screen mode.

The passage on the Jippirasti alphabet in the map commentary for 1750c reads as follows:

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One new script has been devised since the last map-- the Jippirasti alphabet. It is a handsome and ingenious script. Strictly speaking there is not a letter for each sound, but a stroke; rules allow the strokes to be combined into a unique but decomposable glyph for each word. For instance, p could be expanded to pa, thence
pra or pan, and even to sprand. The Tzhuro attribute the script to Jippir (God) himself, who taught it directly to Babur. Unbelievers suggest that Babur adopted the idea of the Skourene syllabary, which also contains both alphabetic and syllabic elements.


And that's all we know -- for now... Wink

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Thanks alot! Mr. Green


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serali wrote:
Hi, Thanks alot! Mr. Green


You're welcome. Smile

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